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GIGFILES BOSENDORFER 200 Piano

"An experience with pianos..."

This piano is not exactly a duplication of the original. It has been enhanced a lot to have an immediate wide sound. Once in the mix it has a large presence because of its enhanced harmonics. Listened alone, it doesn't sounds natural, but mix it with a group of instrument and you have something very inspiring and unique.

 Gigfiles Bosendorfer 200 tuned: sampled ever 2-notes 4 levels of velocity, size : 186 Mb

 Gigfiles Bosendorfer 200 detuned: sampled ever 2-notes 4 levels of velocity, size : 198 Mb

Each piano I've sampled was a new experience. I've seen the competition doing releases of Bosendorfer Imperial, 250, 290. The biggest possible, and the soundbanks are so huge, more than 2 gb!!! When you surf on the web you can read the disappointed comments. Too big, using too much process, leaving not enough space for anything else, doing crackle with Gigastudio or EXS...

My point of view is different. Only the result is important, and if I have a 200 Mb sound bank that rocks like the one I've released today, then it leaves me plenty of space to load more samples in my sampler. It keeps a lot of CPU free to use a great reverb, or have a more instruments running at the same time. To resume it leaves more space to concentrate on the music and not on technical issues!

There is a lot of marketing around most piano sound banks. Do you know that the best hardware pianos are using sounds that are between 32 mb to 256 mb? And a lot of artists are using them on stage.

So having a great piano, that is not sampled with 8 level of velocity (do you believe it is truth, just try to play with 8 level of velocity on a real piano) YES, THIS, IS POSSIBLE.

Here it is just for you : 198 Mb the piano that you can use with any modern style, it is 'only' a Model 200 (well worth 85 000 USD) and its does not have a girl name, emperor nick name, it is just the Bosendorfer 200!

Gigfiles BOSENDORFER 200 Grand Piano.
Size : 2 banks of 190 Mb each. Compressed : 95 Mb. 
Stereo. 4 velocity levels. Sampled every 2 notes full length (about 20 seconds).

Programs details :

Bosendorfer regular velo : this preset has to be used in classical piece like Bach or Mozart or pieces that were made by using a computer. The velocity curve is regular.

Bosendorfer log velo : with this logarithm curve this preset is perfect with piece with a lot of variations like Beethoven, or Brahms...

Bosendorfer exp velo : this program is good with mood music and music that is played using the low velocity range.

Bosendorfer detuned : using a full set of detuned note, this piano has been sampled from the original piano but each note has been slightly detuned. This piano has been recorded upon request of a user in the forums.

Bosendorfer dark : this version use th Low pass filter  setting in order to play with a very dark ambiance.

Bosendorfer long sustain : this modified regular velo preset use a long sustain to simulate large room ambiance. Great for ambient music...

 

Questions and answers :
  • Why having sampled this piano every 2 notes? This is the 3rd piano I've sampled, and I've realized that recording every notes was very hard, and you are always doing some mistake on some notes that are impossible to fix later on when you realize it in studio. So I've decided to concentrate on quality instead of quantity, to stay focused all the time, and try to play the best velocity image. Also it happens that there is almost no difference between the lite version I was doing and the larger ones...

  • Why do you not record the releases queues? Just because it is a complete lack of energy and time. There is almost no difference with and without releases queues. Well some picky sound engineers will certain say something else, but I'm talking to the musicians, release queues are just another marketing artifact.. Just listen the demo at the top of this page . With a percussive instrument the most important thing is the Attract time, not the release time. And you'll see that the competition have some work to do in order to get a better attack with their piano.

  • What is the most important thing to consider about this Bosendorfer? Well you can always listen each note and give some critics, but if you play a piano piece, the velocity curve is perfect, the sound is great, there is no phases issue, good stereo image, what else? It sounds like the original and It costs 'nothing'.

  • Do you really think it is possible to have a great piano in less than 200mb? Well now I'm sure, yes, it is the Bosendofer 200 from Gigfiles! You'll play with all the expensive sound banks you have purchased and dream about the real instrument and the huge time it takes to sample every note, but when you'll need a piano for real, quickly for a demo or a mix, you'll load the Gigfiles Bosendorfer 200, because it will fit in memory, run without a risk of crackle like others that are too big, and it will load in 5 seconds with no braining!

  • Why does this piano sounds a little bit out of tune when played note by note? As usually, I use a special device I've made with my Scope SDK, to create more harmonics and add them right into the piano. Because the sound of a piano is not the same when you play one note than when you play several notes at the same time, I've decided to add these harmonics in every single note. That's quite simple, when you play a piano from the competition, it sounds like several single notes played at the same time : to resume, it sounds small! When you play a Gigfile piano it sounds larger, like a piano when you play several notes at the same time. But when you play a single note, of course, it may sound strange. I've decided that most people are not playing piano note by note right? Of course if you load one sample in Wavelabs and listen it individually, it will not play like a single piano note. But the idea is not to play piano like this. The Gigfile piano is made to be played like a real piano, too bad if this give some ammunitions to sounds engineers that will say : it is out of tune.

  • Why does this piano sounds brighter than most sampled piano I've heard? I've decided to use the same way I've used with the Pleyel P190, that means playing very low the first velocity, but  recording the latest one at the maximum loud : bing!. This gives a very bright and sometime metallic result. I like the idea to have a piano that is not dark and sad. Most of these piano are sounding much more bright, because the are not closed and the stings are expressing their energy directly in the air, not like the upright pianos. But every one does not have a 100 000$ piano at home and these pianos does not sound exactly like the ones we use to play.

Features

  • State of the art programming.

  • Sampled and optimized with the help of an exclusive technology.

  • Each sample is unique, no transpositions.

  • No fake layers all the layers have been RECORDED, no Wavelabs tricks.

  • Both precise and large sound.

  • Wow factor, just listen the demo!

You can have more info about the Steinway C series here and about the Pleyel P190 series here.

* Note : compression divides the original size by a factor of 2. We use Winrar 3. If you purchase a 100mb bank from our website, you'll have to download 50 mb.

Note : all our products are created with Gigastudio and converted to the following formats : Kontakt, Halion, Reaktor, Exs24, Soundfont. Drums are converted to the previous format plus Battery. Because of the technical limitations on some samplers some soundbanks may not work exactly the same as the original .GIG format.